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Transformational Belonging in Nursing

July 15, 2026 Posted by Radio Host Nursing, Our Shows

On this episode of Talking the Walk host Tom Testa sits down with Dr. Kathryn Shaffer, Director of Innovation at Thomas Jefferson University College of Nursing and co-founder of Fifth Window for a conversation focused on transformational belonging in nursing and the challenges facing the profession. She discusses how current systems unintentionally create exhaustion through poor design, including documentation requirements, staffing ratios, and rushed orientations.

Dr. Kathryn Shaffer is a national speaker, nurse educator, and thought leader on transformational belonging in nursing and healthcare. She is Director of Innovation and Associate Professor at Thomas Jefferson University College of Nursing in Philadelphia, where she has spent nearly two decades reimagining how nurses are prepared, supported, and seen. Kathy is also Co-Founder and COO of Fifth Window, a platform dedicated to nurse well-being.

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